Day 1 - RISE

[Alegis]

Only 3 of us? welp!

have to see what we can do and kill off people we discover as being of security team.

I'll be a bit busy to do much networking but we'll try.


Any ideas on who to gank? better of killing as many of the others as we can, All of us focus on someone, maybe convert it with weaken to special damage. I would have to know what someone's ability is in order to use my ability succesfully.

Melding, I suggest healing whoever is more likely to get targeted. I don't think I've played with either of you yet so I'm not sure if people have grudges on you two.

[Alegis]

Apparently my power is a meatshield power, I can choose someone to be someone else's meatshield and suffer all negative effects thrown at whoever he's meatshielding.

I'll protect myself this way.

[wiet]

Both Melding and me have only played in SE++ Phallas. I don't think I have anyone with a grudge going after me and neither does Melding, as far as I know.

As far as murdering people, I think you'd probably know better than me who to go after. Who are the most experienced players? I also can't attack and convert to special at the same time. Going by our 50 hp, with me using my special we wouldn't have enough attacking power to kill people with just the two of you. Thoughts?

[wiet]

Actually I'm not sure if Melding has only played in SE++ Phallas. I may have run my mouth, better hear from him instead.

[Alegis]

We're probably better off using the standard attack and only convert to special damage if we know someone is likely to be a high profile target (alpha or beta team for instance).

if you can heal/cure and attack at same time you could heal yourself to preemptively protect yourself. Although last I remember healing happens before actions but it could be resolved simultaneously.

Players who are likely to network around:

Egos
Ringo
Rend. Known for his 'Rend deals' where he mutually reveals with people. Hasn't lied ever (of course may have implied other things than the truth).
INFIDEL (the networkiest of the networkiest. In general I always avoid seering/killing him because he's such a high profile target other people target him early. Last phallakinetic game he was seered night 1 but managed to talk his way out of it, haha)
Dunadan is high profile in that he is highly grudged by people
kime likes networking and being silly and being spontaneous. not that much of a secret backdoor deals planner but he is a bit.
Gumpy is also a networker, although he is busy with university. If I were to soft network I would give him a ring first. Which I might do today
Fiaryn is sometimes attacked or voted early due to his RAGING POST STYLE
Teucrian tries to contribute as much as he can as villager by reasoning and what not.
rawkking goodguy is an active networker

What might happen in the thread is that sometimes people get bandwagons agains themselves or reveal - or people might try to save other people from getting killed/voted.

Our prime targets are arcadian order and alpha beta, mason teams. I think we're better off trying to kill as many people who seem like masons as possible.

It's possible there's another high council team but I doubt it.
Possibly the arcadian order needs to kill team alpha.

[Alegis]

Made all of you admin so you're able to edit the ORDERS post with your own orders if you want to do something else.

If you send a PM to the supercomputer it will override your orders on the board. So if you would ever send a PM and want to change it, you'll have to change a new PM. If you don't send PMs then your orders here on the thread are deemed valid.

[wiet]

Killing Alpha members would be bad for us since it would limit the time we have to kill the Arcadian Order and Team Beta.

Is there any reason you picked kuhlmeye as your deflection target? Also, who do you think we should go after first? You're our veteran please hold our hands

[Alegis]

For my deflection target I just picked a low-tomedium profile target. I want someone to be my meatshield who isn't likely to get nullified. If either myself or my meatshield is targeted by Nullify my meatshield power fails. I think kuhlmeye once ordered my death a few games ago so I'm just repaying my debts.

You're right that we're better off avoiding alpha if we can until the arcadian order is down. I don't think it'll be easy to distinguish between those factions though, unless we team up with a subfaction who has seering.

25 life seems to be the lowest life anyone can have, probably villagers. If we really want to finish one off we'll have to throw 2 attacts on someone or we can spread our 3 attacks around and weaken people. I suggest at least 2 attacks. Might as well throw our 3rd attack on it (and not use weaken unless it's a thread revealed target or whatever, then we should probably use weaken).

Hmmm any random pick for attack is fine by me. Do we want the networkers down or do we want to cooperate with them? Hmmm
I also have to refrain from going after my obvious targets or nemesis. Ringo might target me and kill kuhlmeye that way. I wonder if it's wise to kill Ringo. If he survives he might suspect me. Then again it's not like we have that much of an outspoken nemesis bond. I'm only worried he might actively target me.

I'll keep him alive for now, let's put 3 attacks on adventfalls. No reason. If you have someone else you prefer feel free to change it

[wiet]

I agree with saving my power untill we actually have a clear target to use it on. Right now we're just firing away into thin air, so I'll save it.

I don't know the history of the previous phalla threads. Is the High Council considered on the side of the village? If yes, we could consider reaching out to networks. If not, we clam up unless expressely invited. The way the description read it sounds like we're a neutral mafia, but I don't know for sure.

If 25 health is the lowest someone can have it seems like a waste to put three on adventfalls. Lets put two on him and one on Ringo? You seem worried about him and he seems like a high profile poster, maybe others will target him and one blast from us will knock him over the edge.

[Alegis]

the mafia from the previous game is now the village I'm not too sure about the first two games because I only played in the third one, armageddon, as that mafia.

Armageddon: village is arcadian, and you had an arcadian order. Domari and High Council were two other galactic powers who were trying to get some control over arcadia.
In the end the Pinnacle Guild won.

And now pinnacle guild tries to keep control. We as representatives of high council are pissed off and killing strike team beta, arcadian order is also acting as terrorists.

We're not really village even though we can win with the village. But considering we want strike force B dead they don't really want to let us do our thing.

The strike forces themselves probably want us down. Or probably the Domari legion does.

We can be sure there's at least 2 factions orso who want us dead so we can't really just post it in the thread and coast along, although one can always claim to be something else than they are. I'd say we don't reveal as anything.

I'm only a bit worried ringo might target me, or if he is masoned says that if he dies I should die or whatever I'd rather kill him off than only damage him if we damage him at all.

in the death list it will probably say

Ringo - died fro several psionic blasts

I'd rather have him die night 2 or something, even though the chance is low someone will immediately suspect me for killing him. People will see someone was attacked by a barrage of psionic powers and might try to deduce who it was.

[wiet]

Alright, thank you for clearing it up. We'll just stick with blowing up adventfalls then.

[Alegis]

I'm usually way too paranoid as mafia, thinking doing x or y would reveal myself or the group. You can ignore me when I start shouting WHAT WHY ARE YOU POSTING RIGHT AFTER ME! THEY MIGHT SUSPECT WE'RE MASONS!, it's paranoid exaggeration.

If I can offer some tips, if someone is out there actively hunting they might try to think who is grouped. If one of us ever gets a hefty vote bandwagon against him it might be better to leave it be unless we can come up with a good reason someone else should be voted (and we should have whoever is getting voted out post it).

Personally I often stay out of bandwagons unless I want the person dead. See as you deem fit, act as if you would if you were a vanillager.
If someone asks what your role is just say vanillager. That reminds me, I'm going to ask edcrab for the villager role pm

[melding]

I'm trying my usual charms to network with useless people to hopefully throw in our way.

being more careful then last time, sine i really helped mafia win last time.

[Alegis]

don't reach too far, gotta know what you want to get out of a soft network thing. Normal villagers are less likely to 'reach out' for stuff.

if you have se++ friends or whatever sounds like a good idea though. Sometimes I try to get in contact with mafiosi and make them think I trust them or I can do shit for them, keeps you alive if they think you're useful or able to be influenced.
But if they;re looking for targets to pick they might go for people who are reaching out to them

We don't have a seering power so we'll have to do info broking this way I guess

We have to outsurvive arcadian order though, so keeping a bit on the background isn't too bad an idea. Doubt you'll get someone to say "HI IM ARCADIAN" easily.

[melding]

I found a good special. I trust him.

Keep langly alive for now.